Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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    Artist notices that his horror creations get listed by AI bots as real. Decides to troll. It works. 2 hours, 1 source. We are so cooked.

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    Here’s a fun one… Microsoft added copilot features to sharepoint. The copilot system has its own set of access controls. The access controls let it see things that normal users might not be able to see. Normal users can then just ask copilot to tell them the contents of the files and pages that they can’t see themselves. Luckily, no business would ever put sensitive information in their sharepoint system, so this isn’t a realistic threat, haha.

    Obviously Microsoft have significant resources to research and fix the security problems that LLM integration will bring with it. So much money. So many experts. Plenty of time to think about the issues since the first recall debacle.

    And this is what they’ve accomplished.

    https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/exploiting-copilot-ai-for-sharepoint/

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        I think that these are different products? I mean, the underlying problem is the same, but copilot studio seems to be “configure your own llm front-end” and copilot for sharepoint seems to be an integration made by the sharepoint team themselves, and it does make some promises about security.

        Of course, it might be exactly the same thing with different branding slapped on top, and I’m not sure you could tell without some inside information, but at least this time the security failures are the fault of Microsoft themselves rather than incompetent third party folk. And that suggests that copilot studio is so difficult to use correctly that no-one can, which is funny.

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      Abusing privileged identities like this to do things is apparently a thing the younger hackers are quite good at so this will all be fun.

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      @rook @BlueMonday1984 Maybe they have asked CoPilot to write the code that restricts access for CoPilot?

      (Sometimes this future feels like 2001 A Space Odyssey, just as a farce. And without benevolent aliens.)

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      @rook @BlueMonday1984

      Thankfully I’m able to say “what is sharepoint?”

      I did meet it once. A client used it in their office. But when they wanted us offshore (via satellite link) to contribute to it, it became awfully unstable, probably because of latency/ unstable data links.

      It’s M$. I doubt it has improved.

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    They’re already doing phrenology and transphobia on the pope.

    (screenshot of a Twitter post with dubious coloured lines overlaid on some photos of the pope’s head, claiming a better match for a “female” skull shape)

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    https://xcancel.com/GuiveAssadi/status/1920232405324955825

    Steven Pinker: I’ve been part of some not so successful attempts to come up with secular humanist substitutes for religion.

    Interviewer: What is the worst one you’ve been involved in?

    Steven Pinker: Probably the rationalist solstice in Berkeley, which included hymns to the benefits of global supply chains. I mean, I actually completely endorse the lyrics of the song, but there’s something a bit cringe about the performance.

    from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTVJjmabaas which nobody should watch, obviously

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    OT: Estonia (and Helsinki) were very nice, but I did not see a single delivery robot running around. Stayed across from the MalwareBytes HQ tho, I thought that was cool.

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      There certainly are delivery robots going around in Helsinki, but not to the extent you’re guaranteed to see them on any given day if you’re just strolling around.

      Glad you enjoyed your visit.

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      subscriptionless vmware users

      perpetual license holders

      What a bunch of weird and off-putting ways to avoid saying owners of a product that they fucking bought.

      The article is about broadcom sending cease and desists to vmware owners who download updates by the way, because apparently to be entitled to any kind of after sale support you need to be leasing the product.

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    Polymarket on the new pope skeet

    Also there already is a bsky user with the username leoxiv, who makes from what I can tell final fantasy poses, some nsfw. Lol.

    Skeet description

    G Elliott Morris ‪@gelliottmorris.com‬ :“A mere 2 hours ago, betting markets were giving the now Pope a 0% chance of becoming Pope. Lmfao”

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      Also there already is a bsky user with the username leoxiv, who makes from what I can tell final fantasy poses, some nsfw. Lol.

      Being a bit more specific, its Final Fantasy XIV, which you’ve probably heard about from people using its free trial as meme material. Its also a better example of the metaverse than any actual metaverse out there, but that’s a given for literally any MMO that has popped up for the last twenty fucking years.

      Also:

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      When the cubbies won the series, I knew it meant that Trump 2016 was a lock. A Chicago pope can only mean Trump 2028 confirmed 😭

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    I know the Rationalists tend to like (or used to) Freakonomics (contrarians recognize contrarians), and the Freakonomics podcast (there always is a podcast isn’t there), so I was amused to see the YT channel ‘Unlearning Economics’, do a ‘The Death of Freakonomics’ episode.

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      Honestly I think his whole channel is pretty damn good if you want to see someone with actual chops - here meaning an economics doctorate and an encyclopedic memory for The Simpsons memes - dig into the research in a way that effectively balances depth and approachability. The first one of his that I remember was an examination of Pinker’s use and abuse of data in his radical optimist manifesto that I can’t remember the title of.

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    some thiel news, in which the tiny little man keeps trailblazing being the absolute weirdest motherfucker:

    He has found religion recently. I don’t know if you’ve been following this, but Peter Thiel is now running Bible study groups in Silicon Valley.

    now you may read this and already start straining your eyes, so I strongly suggest you warm up before you read with the rest of the paragraph, which continues:

    He said in a few interviews recently that he believes that the Antichrist is Greta Thunberg. It’s extraordinary. He said that it’s foretold that the Antichrist will be seeming to spread peace. But here’s his thinking. He says Greta wants everyone to ride a bicycle. (Now, that’s a gross caricature of what she’s said.) But he’s said Greta wants everyone to ride a bicycle. That may seem good, but the only way that could happen is if there was a world government that was regulating it. And that is more evil than the effects of climate change.

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      It is very important to notice and continually point out that these people appear to believe more fervently in their chosen demons than they do in their proclaimed god

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      Does anyone know what church Thiel is involved with? I’ve heard catholic as well as evangelical…like are they making an exception to the gay marriage because he’s rich??

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        Thiel isn’t known to be among any laity. He was raised as some flavor of evangelical fundie and follows a specific philosopher, René Girard. He generally hasn’t gotten a pass on being queer from the wider Christian community, and if you want to hear some psychoanalysis of his closet then you might enjoy the relevant Behind the Bastards: How Peter Thiel Became the Gravedigger of Democracy.

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      As a Dutch person, why can’t yall be normal about bikes? Just invest in separate bike lanes and protect people on bicycles from drivers (I really need to write out my manifesto blog post on how I think car ownership turns you into a psychopath one day). It isn’t that hard. (Shoutout to the couple who was crossing the Houtribdijk (actually a dam, not a dike) on bikes last week)

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        I remember seeing a particularly stupid libertarian guy argue against public transport by saying that car owners would lose out because the value of having a car would decrease. I think it’s a crab in a bucket type mentality. Everyone should suffer from cars. I blame Big Car for this.

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        Hey that’s unfair, us North Americans are as normal about bikes as we’re normal about cars.

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      Hm, I don’t believe in biblical apocalypse stuff, but if I did I wouldn’t think that the climate activist gambling her life to get supplies to the starving population in Gaza is the anti-christ.

      I think a power hungry, wannabe vampire, billionaire with companies named after corrupting artifacts, more fits the bill.

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        The anti-christ also needs to be universally liked iirc. And the Catholic church explicitly bans calling out a time (and thus a person) as the anti-christ. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Council_of_the_Lateran if by a miracle I’m declared Pope (which is technically possible (yes, im unironically linking to r/neoliberal, it was one of the first hits on google, but I’m never beating the accusations)) I will excom all these people, Oprah giving out cars style. (vote for me you cowards).

        Re: the white smoke, anyway, still available to become an antipope at reasonable rates.

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          I’m gonna be real disappointed if thiel is the anti-christ. Like disappointed in the writing and narrative of the universe

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    Road rage victim ‘speaks’ via AI at his killer’s sentencing [Archive]

    I fucking can’t right now.

    [Judge] Lang allowed Pelkey’s loved ones to play an AI-generated version of the victim — his face and body and a lifelike voice that appeared to ask the judge for leniency.

    “To Gabriel Horcasitas, the man who shot me: It is a shame we encountered each other that day in those circumstances," the artificial version of Pelkey said. “In another life, we probably could have been friends. I believe in forgiveness.”

    Edit: 404Media article on the story that’s much better

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      This is beyond horrifying:

      I don’t know to decide wether I should be glad this wasn’t show to a jury, or sad we don’t get an obvious mistrial setting some kind of precedent against this kind of demented ventriquolism act, indirectly asking for maximum sentencing through what should be completely inadmissible character testimony.

      Does anyone here know how ‘appeals on sentencing’ vs ‘appeals on verdicts’, obviously judges should have some leeway, but do they have enough leeway to say (In court) that they were moved for example by what a spirit medium said or whatnot, is there some jurisprudence there?

      I can only hope that the video played an insignificant role in the judges decision, and it was some deranged—post hoc—emotional—waxing ‘poetic’ moment for the judge.

      Yuck.

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        Story goes he got an extra year of prison and the judge mentioned the ai testimony.

        If I ever get murdered in the USA and my ai fake is not shouting about jury nullification you know it isnt the real me.

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        I tried to find that out but it doesn’t seem to be mentioned in any of the articles. However, searching for the names associated with it (wife, brother-in-law, and the third business partner) brings up “Kadima Ventures” from Arizona, which has these three names listed as management. However, information about that company beyond some weird mentions and a LinkedIn profile seems to be scarce (and the AZ business registry is either down right now or not accessible from where I am).

        I looked again and found a 404 article on the whole story that’s better and has more info than the one I linked before, though. I’m adding that to the original post.