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Cake day: May 3rd, 2024

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  • I don’t recall who said it but wasn’t the name gossip picked partly because they wanted to emphasize the frivolousness of the posts that would go there? Like they were begrudgingly maintaining part of the old dunk place but wanted to shame it. I agree, in my experience it has “effeminate” and frivolous connotations and is used in media to refer to what those clique-y and rude women do behind your back.



  • What helps me is considering we are all hardly one step above wild animals. We do what is instinctual and based on our conditioning and upbringing which no one has any choice in. If a dog was raised to attack people, I wouldn’t get upset at that dog when they attack people, it’s what they have been made to do by outside influence.

    I really believe most people aren’t so selfish and reactionary as 4channers or whatever though. If everyone gives you this feeling maybe it would be helpful to spend time around different people somewhere else?

    I did grow up Buddhist though, it’s been drilled into me since early on to have kindness and compassion for all people, and similarly to Buddhism, Marxism teaches that we are products of our conditions, so I tend to hate the conditions rather than the person.


  • I have a feeling most of us that have responded to this ‘drama’ don’t actually care about the tanks that much. But just this, it felt like a power-tripping decision to change this place from the top-down with no community input, and I still don’t fully understand the true purposes or rationale even after reading essentially all of the posts around it.





  • Reuters can be so irritating, they are great at coming off objectively. They technically have the general facts correct but the way this is framed to me shows so much of the media’s bias towards Israel. They say Israel denies the allegations of genocide, not bothering to mention there is widespread scholarly consensus on the matter, not mentioning that the majority of those killed are women and children when talking about the numbers, saying “Hamas killed 1200” when it’s likely many of the deaths of Israelis were from friendly fire.

    And this paragraph:

    The ban, which authorities extended for another four days until Thursday, has been in place since Friday after attacks on Israeli soccer supporters following a soccer match between visiting Maccabi Tel Aviv and Ajax Amsterdam.

    Why were the Maccabi fans attacked? Does that not seem like relevant context for a journalist to mention? To their credit they do briefly mention, buried further down “visiting Israeli fans burned a Palestinian flag and used sticks, pipes and rocks in clashes with opponents” but the overall picture they paint makes it sound like there are roaming anti-Jewish mobs in Amsterdam.



  • The words of a random chud might not be consequential in itself, but I think it’s important to take note of what kind of rhetoric is going around chud circles and counter it and the dunking helps that. Maybe people are getting riled up or mad because of it but it seems like many of us don’t see it that way. The dunk tank posts do not rile me or make me mad in general, it gives me a view into a culture I don’t interact with and the comments allow discussion of how these mindsets come into being, and how to counter it.







  • Why couldn’t there have been a discussion post about this before the changes? Obviously people against it are going to be more vocal but it seems very unpopular based on the comments, and I agree with others that the names aren’t great, purposes are confusing, and I don’t follow the logic of why these changes were made. The name change makes sense, but if this is about increasing the effort of the anti-reactionary posts I don’t believe this will achieve that.

    Like others have said, we don’t have energy to effortpost all the time and simple tear-downs serve an important function for bonding and catharthis. Forcing effort in posts will just reduce posting, not increase effortposts imo. If it’s about discouraging misanthropic views, maybe too much dunking increases misanthropy for some, but to me these ‘dunks’ are an antidote to misanthropy because I can see there are others who want to shame these reactionary views, as opposed to my experience in more mainstream circles where there is wide agreement with the neoliberal or fascist worldviews.