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  • I think a lot of people in this thread are overstating the suspicion of outsiders. International trade has existed for thousands of years. There was even limited tourism in the middle ages. It would be rare to encounter people that you couldn’t communicate with, but I don’t think you’d be automatically sacrificed.

    I’m in London, so would fare better than most as they would definitely be familiar with outsiders. That said people in many of the old European cities would likely be able to blag their way to local universities. Oxford definitely already existed 650 years ago so I’d start by heading there.

    I think all scholarly writing was in Latin at the time, so I’d need somebody to translate, but (with luck) I could move maths on a couple of hundred years. I reckon I could get basic electricity going too. Obviously the more you said upfront the more suspicious people would be, but if you drip-fed knowledge over a few years, trying to let the steps rest upon each other you could probably share a lot of what we know today.







  • rwtwm@feddit.ukto196@lemmy.blahaj.zonerule
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    I know this is a joke thread, but I think this is a great example of a poorly designed survey question that charitable people would say ‘generates discussion’. I would say it enables confirmation bias and just creates animosity amongst people looking for reasons to dislike an imaginary other.

    My instinct when I first saw reporting of this was, yeah I probably could. But that’s because I read the question as me being able to play until I won a point. If I even won one, even by a double fault, I win. When I said as much on social media people jumped on me. But here’s the thing, I think theres like a 99.8% chance that the world’s best Female tennis player wins any given point against me. I’m just expecting one shanked return from 500 efforts.

    Then uproar. Because it’s only because she’s a woman. Except… Well there isn’t an equivalent question for Novak Djokovic! So people are jumping to conclude reasoning, and YouGov is formenting that by reporting on a shoddy question with no control to give us a benchmark. For the record I think on average I’d have to wait longer to win a point against the worlds best male tennis player, because they serve so much faster, but I don’t think I’d be waiting forever.

    So people read the question and assume both that the question refers to a one point shoot out, and they already think the greater portion of men are misogynists. Well then that’s the explanation! It cannot be an ambiguous question interpreted differently!

    And I’m not denying that for some people the worst explanation is unfortunately the correct one. But I do have an issue with people dismissing or ignoring fairly rational objections to the survey or interpretations of it because of their pre-existing biases.








  • Cowardly from Keir’s Labour

    That’s seems to be a theme. I thought I would be underwhelmed by this government, but at least thankful for a period of sensible leadership who understood the benefit of a strong public sector.

    Actually I’m more than disappointed. Cowardice is their watchword. Cowardly hiding from the right wing media, from US authoritarianism, from market fundamentalists. We’ll get Reform next at this rate, because we’ll be encouraged to give up by astroturfers who will similarly be whipping the rarely engaged into a frenzy.



  • I’m certain (indeed more certain than I likely should be, which may be meta-meta memory?!) that what you say that the end is the case. There’s almost certainly a bias towards error correction over direct recall. Certainly my experience is of testing wrong answers in my head before alighting on the right one.

    That implies a set up more like an adversarial neural network (I’m not saying this is actually how it is, just trying to draw an analogy from something I understand), as opposed to a function in code. But that seems like a bit of a waste, but also means that two (or more) distinct processes could be working on the same task?


  • That’s very helpful thank you. I read the abstract of the paper, I think it might take me a couple of goes to really grok it. I think it’s testing why are more likely to correct a wrong answer given on a test (in a subsequent test), if they are enthusiastically told it’s right the first time. This is compared to if they are told that they might be wrong!

    Given it’s the first time I’ve heard of this, I’m finding even the premise a challenge! ‘Hypercorrection’ apparently, for anyone not going to the paper.

    What I’ve read of the article, meta memory seems to be more about our ability to judge how well we know something, rather than evaluate if our recall is correct.

    I say ‘rather’… The concepts are obviously (or maybe not obviously!) related, but that sounds like assigning a score to the information we possess. While my original question was around evaluating knowledge as incorrect after recall.

    That’s why the engine analogy doesn’t quite work for me. It’s not one answer, it’s two! So if it is an engine, it’s one that drives the car both forwards and backwards initially, and then switches off the one it doesn’t need.

    I’m definitely going to read more into these concepts though. Thanks again for the links!



  • I’m hardly a biblical scholar, but that interpretation doesn’t feel like it fits with the rest of the passage…

    38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[h] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

    It says turn them the other cheek also, after ‘do not resist’. So it’s about offering even to the worst, rather than resisting.