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    1 month ago

    Sorry, I was not clear. I was trying to say that they’re a package deal; you must look at them within the contexts of each other. Both cultures are hitting the same notes based on their propensity for similar historical revisionism at similar times and the relationship is kinda nuanced. I found something more eloquent than my 2am brain.

    The main reason for such lack of accuracy is that a thorough analy- sis of the history of the raised-arm salute requires a synthesis of vari- ous areas of knowledge that scholars usually keep separate: the history, literature, and art of ancient rome; the cultural and political history of modern italy, Germany, and the United States; the history of late- eighteenth-century european painting and late-nineteenth-century popular theater; and film history from its beginnings to today. For this reason no comprehensive scholarship on the raised-arm salute has previously been attempted.

    Pp 4

    With the rise of Nazi Germany, some Americans identified the flag salute itself as problematic. This dissertation refers to the salute popularized by the Youth’s Companion, in which children began the Pledge with their right hand over their heart before extending their hand upward toward the flag, palm up, at the phrase “to my flag,” as the Bellamy salute to be consistent with earlier historiography, although recent research suggests it predated Francis Bellamy, its namesake.467 The Nazi salute differed from the Bellamy salute only in that the arm began outstretched and the palm faced down. The Bellamy salute was most likely based on the mythologized “Roman salute,” which also inspired Italian and German fascist salutes in the twentieth century.468 Although the Bellamy salute predated the Nazi salute and was incorporated into the Flag Code in 1923, Americans in the 1930s and early 1940s were forced to consider whether the traditional rituals of the Pledge of Allegiance should change as a hyper-nationalistic foreign regime seemed intent on overthrowing the democratic governments of the world.46

    Pp 157 - https://dlib.bc.edu/islandora/object/bc-ir:109587/datastream/PDF/view

    This is what I was trying to get at with the pipeline link.

    Also you must consider the rise of media during this time: https://kb.osu.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/0c516d4f-431c-551b-820c-2bfed6ec9b4b/content

    History rhymes. I unironically think about the Roman Empire a lot because it’s a dog whistle. To say one inspired the other isn’t wrong when you take a step back, it’s just oversimplified.

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