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  • Ah yeah, that wasnt what I was trying to imply. I think honestly the main reason that I didnt agree fully was because you were using a lot of terminology in ways that i wasnt sure i understood, and id like to familiarize myself with more of the topic before i formed a distinct opinion of the less clear aspects of issue. Obviously i want everyone to get the help they need though, and I don’t think we were ever seriously in disagreement about that. I appreciate the clarification btw, im not familiar with that usage.



  • Yeah, fair. The difficulty comes in because i’ve never been diagnosed with any digestive issues somehow, so historically ive always just attributed it to the “fast metabolism” everyone tells me about. Honestly this conversation is about the first time ive ever put that sort of thought into it





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    6 hours ago

    Completely anecdotal, but I have to assume that is incorrect, or that I have a fundamental misunderstanding. I have done tests and found that my body processes(in one hole->out another) food in about an hour. Which is absolutely insane and results in most of my evacuate being unprocessed. I’ve read that for other people in similar tests, they tend to average around 12 hours. Im guessing that means my understanding of what contitutes metabolism is incorrect?


  • Your first two paragraphs i agree with 100%. Your final paragraph i feel is accurate but id want to really mull over that before I really form an opinion. Obv in an ideal world it’s pretty easy to assign blame, but our legal and cultural issues are so fucked that topics like that really have to be analyzed in depth under the lens of how that would actually effect reality.



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    8 hours ago

    I’m not sure your second point works, or maybe I just don’t understand it. It’s not like the doctor is making judgements that people are fat outside a hospital- they’re doing their job. You’ve got a car and it’s starter goes out every year, last time being a year ago. Your car wont start. Whats the first assumption?

    It’s not ableist or bias to assume that the most common issue is the most likely issue. They see a ton of people whos problems are irrefutably due to their weight. It’s not the doctors job to make judgement calls on whether that person is wholly responsible for their situation, it’s their job to doagnose the problem and help take steps to fix it. The problem being their weight, the steps include: burn down capitalism and replace it with a system that doesnt incentivise companies to use the cheapest least healthy ingredients, or tell the patient unless they lose weight they’re going to die. One of these is completely pointless to tell the patient, the other gives them an unfair opportunity to potentially save themselves.



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    Yeah, unfortunately this kinda only goes one way. No matter your metabolism, if you starve yourself you will lose weight. It’s literally physically impossible for you to not. It’s just difficult and wildly unhealthy to lose weight that way.

    Whereas the opposite is not neccassarily true, depending on your metabolism you very well might be able to eat as nuch as you want. You might even have to eat more than you are comfortable with just to maintain your weight, which is what I deal with. With the right metabolism, there could be a situation where there is no upper limit on how much you could eat without gaining weight.

    Caveats include: obviously if you eat a pound of food your weight goes up by a pound, but assuming you are similar to me, after that passes through you your weight goes back down to effectively the exact same as it was before you ate. Im not glorifying a fast metabolism here, in fact my metabolism is no fast that I don’t get most of the nutients i eat and am therefore perpetually malnourished no matter what or how much I eat. I spend more on food to maintain my weight than i do on literally everything else combined, excluding rent, and maybe gas.

    Oddly, although scaling my food does not seem to scale nutrients from my food, scaling my caloric burn does seem to impact my appetite. When I was working a physical job, i was consuming about 4000 calories/day and most of the time i felt like I was on the edge of passing out from never ending fatigue. I’d wake up and spend every moment of the day starving. Now, i work a very relaxed job and my appetite has vanished. I often go days without eating and dont seem to be losing a significant amount of weight, unlike back when. Although when I do eat I tend to eat multiple huge meals in a day, often about once/twice a week, and my weight afterwards doesnt seem to go up, it just stops going down for a day or two. The only way for me to gain weight seems to be to lose it first, I literally cannot get above 160lb at 6"2’







  • I tend to think differently than most people but it seems obvious to me. As humans we have technology to itneract with and enrich our lives, but animals are unwilling/unable to create enrichment for themselves. Its led me to think about what they consider fun and the nature of fun, and it would seem to me that they would make the most of their senses. Considering their sense of smell is so strong, ive always equated them sniffing things to us taking a nice stare at an inpressive bit of scenery, or tasting the finer details of an intricately crafted meal. Thats why i try to bring home things that will have an interesting scent, to my animals it would be the same as bringing them a tasty treat.