• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    Oh I’m sure that’ll go perfectly well in China!

    Maybe ask some students on how well that went when they protested on some big square there…

    • PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world
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      6 hours ago

      They were manipulated by CIA plants that were murdering Chinese army soldiers. So. There’s that part of the story that caused the states response.

      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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        2 hours ago

        Username checks out.

        Tankies will always find any excuse to say China can do no wrong, and if they do it’s the west’s fault…

        “We had to massacre those protesters, you see. The US was targeting our military assets! It’s their fault.” Golly.

        • PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world
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          17 minutes ago

          I mean. If labor unions killed people. Like they did during some of the coal mine riots. It gives the police and at times military freedoms to retaliate.

          I grew up where the sheriff of my county killed 25 people in a single day before miner unions were allowed to exist.

          Look up the Williamsport Mine Field Riots. They treated these people like animals. Just like the CCP treats their lower workers.

          I’m not a tankie. I just know what happened on the ground that led up to the violence. I was in a masters program for counter terror.

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      2 days ago

      I’m aware. I still think they’re the country most in need of labor unions.

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        14 hours ago

        Oh, you were serious! Well, I think what they need is Democracy first, then unions. Communism theoretically eliminates the need for unions, but the reality is that it’s just a dictatorship. Unions in China would likely either be co-opted by the Communist party through subterfuge, or through “reeducating” the misguided leadership and defining the unions - thus landing them right where they are, with a new bureaucracy.

        Unions represent the spirit of the checks and balances envisioned in the U.S. Constitution. It is only by being of near equal power to the company that employees can negotiate for fair compensation and treatment. Without that, they’re just resources. It’s an effort to use human nature to gain good outcomes.