Democrats Need To Change
How We Talk About ICEThere ftfy
Democrats worry about how they look to other way too much. They need to look at republican evil as evil and stop letting spineless trash get elected.
If the Democratic Party had half a brain they too would be calling for the immediate prosecution and abolition of ICE for violating the constitution. Instead we get seven house dems voting to approve their budget and we’ll get some limp dick gesture from Senate dems before they cave like always.
We need more people like Kat primarying complacent party-machine dems in every state and at every opportunity. Take back the party from the DNC and shape it into an actually progressive party until we can get ranked choice and drop the current two party paradigm entirely.
If the Democratic Party had half a brain
Reverse Hanlon’s razor. Don’t attribute to stupidity what can only be explained by malice. They (kind of) know what they’re doing.
Don’t attribute to stupidity what can only be explained by malice
Greetings, fellow cynic. I use this one quite a bit myself.
Ummm
This is the DNC
Thats her
Until she’s kicked out like Hogg.
Hogg left the party after he tried to undemocratically tip the scales of primary elections using his seat as VP on the DNC board and he was removed from the seat but not the party after it was brought to light that the election that put him on the board failed to follow longstanding anti-discrimination policy. He chose not to run for the seat a second time.
DNC Chair Ken Martin tried to compromise with Hogg before his removal, stating the DNC would remain neutral in all primary elections, and that Hogg could continue to support candidates in primaries as long as he did not do so using internal DNC records or funds, and Hogg refused.
Hogg was extremely moderate, saying his strategy was “winning back young voters who have drifted from the Democratic Party to Republicans”.
Hogg left the party after he tried to undemocratically tip the scales of primary elections using his seat as VP
Things you didn’t have a problem with until Hogg. You certainly didn’t have a problem when it was Cuellar.
DNC Chair Ken Martin tried to compromise with Hogg before his removal, stating the DNC would remain neutral in all primary elections
Which lasted until Mamdani ran against Cuomo.
You just cover your lies with more lies, its more effort for me to reffute you than you to just make up additional bullshit.
None of what I said was a lie.
The truth is a lie to Blue MAGA.
You accused the DNC of kicking Hogg out, then you accused me of supporting undemocratic actions in primaries, then you accused the DNC of primarying incumbent Cuomo with Mamdani which is an absolutely wild claim with no basis in reality.
I really hope she wins. Kat is a real one.
Finally. Its not enough, not nearly enough, but it’s a start.
Kat, they voted to pay for the fascists. We are past criminalizing fascists. You are either on the ground helping us physically demolish ICE deathcamps and freeing victims, or you’re the fascist press.
Real leadership is on the ground helping your neighbors. Not platforming your career in a speech.
“No calling out their support of fascism!! My party good! Ignore they fund fascists!”
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I’m agreeing with you. I think the Dems who funded ICE for decades aren’t going to dismantle it.
Dem congressional candidate assaulted by ICE agent
Kat is one of the few people with a political spotlight that is doing something. Sure, she’s a liberal trying to fix a broken system from within; but you can’t say she is one to only give speeches and not participate in active resistance.
Try to remember, anyone who takes an active role in resistance and who isn’t preventing other forms of resistance is an ally.
Love your profile pic. “I’d rather live my life as a farm yard pig than be a fascist” -Porco Rosso
trying to fix a broken system from within
Ah, thanks for reminding why she is still at theatrics of protest that started 22 years ago.
political spotlight
I’d say political theatrics.
active role in resistance and who isn’t preventing other forms of resistance
Care to elaborate here? I would never prevent a liberal from making a fool of themselves, like Kat is exemplifying, but how do you actually resist 90% completion of fascism?
If you don’t understand the difference between resistance and obedience, then no. You aren’t able to recognize an ally and I won’t continue the conversation as I don’t think it will be productive.
For anyone else reading this, please look up the Wikipedia page for Lateral violence/horizontal hostility
If you don’t understand the difference between resistance and obedience
Please recall that 🇺🇲 is an illiterate empire, so you have to precise what differences you mean here. Because both liberals and fascist have wildly different meanings to these nouns, not used in philosophy.
I am a black anarchist, so I know all 8 definitions. Which why I requested precisions.
recognize an ally
To what? Maintaining the empire that deathcamped me? The one still praxing my genocide? How is Kat an ally to a system meant to oppress everyone but the rulers?
productive
Faster precision: what are you trying to produce?
I’m sure you have fought, and suffered, a lot, yourself. But if you consider anyone who does any less than you your enemy, you will find yourself alone very quickly.
Scroll down a tad. I am extremely aware others are unlike me, and incapable of my feats.
I have to ask, how many more broken by design systems do you need to be slammed to the floor to comprehend your tactics are completely ineffective?
Because I reasked myself several times, why would I waste my time, and praxis, talking to folks that both funded the fascists, and also killed minorities? What kind of liberal am I running for the party wanting to kill my constituents?
Alright, I’ll bite. What are you doing about this besides arguing with other leftists on a public forum. Kat is literally the definition of harm reduction. Her campaign contributions were soley from individual citizen donations. Those donations funded mutual aid and outreach to her community. She was fucking thrown to the ground and jailed protesting ICE. What is your praxis in the movement currently?
What are you doing
What is your praxis
Cool, enjoy your emmigration. I don’t see Doug leaving.
The hairdresser who cut her bangs and pointed them directly into her eyelids needs a discussion.
I see the reddit habit of insulting a person’s appearance when you disagree with them but can’t meaningfully address what they’re saying has made it to lemmy.
Via the least surprising messenger.
Ain’t you one of the people who pretends that all the opposition to harris was because of her laugh? Because you’re doing the same shit here.
I agree with everything she said, I’m an advocate for the DNC.
I see the reddit habit of assuming everyone is out to get you has made it to lemmy.
I’m an advocate for the DNC.
And she’s to their left so you mock her hair.
She is the DNC, she was DNC last time she ran as well afaik.
I mock her hairdresser, we should help her resolve that problem.
She is the DNC, she was DNC last time she ran as well afaik.
And yet your advocacy for the DNC stops when someone to your left speaks. Every single time.
So you’re the anti-DNC in this discussion, I even recognize your username as such, and you’re still trying to frame this as me saying anything other?
So you’re the anti-DNC in this discussion
You’re the one mocking someone’s hair because you can’t refute what she’s saying. No, I am not the anti-DNC here. You’re pro-DNC only so long as none of them ever stray too far to your left.
