US Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is gearing up for a potential Senate or presidential run in 2028, igniting excitement among progressives nationwide. #AOC2028
Well if Democrats want to decrease their chance of defeating the MAGA horde, sure, let AOC run. Democrats need someone who can draw the Independents. That is, if the U.S. even has elections by 2028. I am hoping to be an ex-pat by 2028 as o have no hope for our future.
Democrats need someone who can draw the Independents.
What independents?
Harris tried the “country-over-party” approach, and it turned into a “country-over party”
What independents there are remaining don’t vote on policy OR appeals to their sanity and decency, so why the fuck not tack aggressively left this time instead of meekly right?
I don’t think it’s really all that relevant what “approach” Harris tried, to be honest. The whole country gets its news from social media, and no one in either industry or government is even trying to prevent social media from being manipulated on a mass scale to paint weird false narratives. That more than anything is why Trump won. The next election happening in the first place (in a form where it’s actually possible for either candidate to win), or who wins it if there is one, is going to hinge on two opposing factors:
How bad things have gotten in the meantime and how strong an organized opposition movement of the actual people has gotten in response, outside of anything “political” or party base
Who spends the most money and talented effort on manipulating media and social media
I’m not sure the identity of the Democratic candidate actually matters. It would be nice if it was one that was actually good and not just more center-right crap as is usually the Democratic option. But also, if someone is looking around at the state of the country right now but also needs it to be the right candidate before they’ll vote not to have more Trump, that person is pretty much as dumb as a hamster (or has been fooled by a compelling sounding but astoundingly stupid disinfo argument, see second bullet point above).
The unfortunate ratchet effect. Tea party/maga tapped an alternative group. Dems need to reframe their platform maybe AOC will be a front runner there but it may look very different. Independents may get you an election or two but they’ll swing the other way unless you have something solid for them.
A strategy to draw in independents is a shift to the right. This would abandon the left base and present the party as lacking any vision other than weak compromise with fascism. This has been the Democrat strategy since the Tea Party movement of the late 2000s. It hasn’t worked and it won’t work. The Democrats need to present a narrative that resonates. “We’re not as bad as those other guys” isn’t going to get votes.
Leftist voters: I will NEVER vote for Democrats, they’re dead to me
This is a straw man that doesn’t exist/basically doesn’t exist. Sure, there are some online leftists that like to pretend their vitriol is constructive criticism. Most casually left of center people were confused and annoyed when Kamala made a big deal of endorsing fracking. Or when she supported Israel. Or when she brought Liz Cheney on the campaign trail. All are moves to get moderates and none are effective at resonating with anyone.
Well if Democrats want to decrease their chance of defeating the MAGA horde, sure, let AOC run. Democrats need someone who can draw the Independents. That is, if the U.S. even has elections by 2028. I am hoping to be an ex-pat by 2028 as o have no hope for our future.
I don’t believe there are any independents any more.
None that show up to vote at least.
What independents?
Harris tried the “country-over-party” approach, and it turned into a “country-over party”
What independents there are remaining don’t vote on policy OR appeals to their sanity and decency, so why the fuck not tack aggressively left this time instead of meekly right?
I don’t think it’s really all that relevant what “approach” Harris tried, to be honest. The whole country gets its news from social media, and no one in either industry or government is even trying to prevent social media from being manipulated on a mass scale to paint weird false narratives. That more than anything is why Trump won. The next election happening in the first place (in a form where it’s actually possible for either candidate to win), or who wins it if there is one, is going to hinge on two opposing factors:
I’m not sure the identity of the Democratic candidate actually matters. It would be nice if it was one that was actually good and not just more center-right crap as is usually the Democratic option. But also, if someone is looking around at the state of the country right now but also needs it to be the right candidate before they’ll vote not to have more Trump, that person is pretty much as dumb as a hamster (or has been fooled by a compelling sounding but astoundingly stupid disinfo argument, see second bullet point above).
The unfortunate ratchet effect. Tea party/maga tapped an alternative group. Dems need to reframe their platform maybe AOC will be a front runner there but it may look very different. Independents may get you an election or two but they’ll swing the other way unless you have something solid for them.
Who are these independents? I always see them brought up, only for them to abstain from voting or vote for Trump.
A strategy to draw in independents is a shift to the right. This would abandon the left base and present the party as lacking any vision other than weak compromise with fascism. This has been the Democrat strategy since the Tea Party movement of the late 2000s. It hasn’t worked and it won’t work. The Democrats need to present a narrative that resonates. “We’re not as bad as those other guys” isn’t going to get votes.
Leftist voters: I will NEVER vote for Democrats, they’re dead to me
Democrats: Hey centrists vote for us, we’re buds now (loses)
Leftist voters: shocked
This is a straw man that doesn’t exist/basically doesn’t exist. Sure, there are some online leftists that like to pretend their vitriol is constructive criticism. Most casually left of center people were confused and annoyed when Kamala made a big deal of endorsing fracking. Or when she supported Israel. Or when she brought Liz Cheney on the campaign trail. All are moves to get moderates and none are effective at resonating with anyone.