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People in labouring professions do consider it selling their body. They understand the work they are doing is destroying them.
If offered the choice they wouldn’t do it, or at least the amount of it destroying their body.
I like physical labor. I even prefer having jobs where I do physical labor over sitting all day. I do not like the fact they hurt me over time making future physical labor harder and harder.
It’s really simple:
when you “sell your body” by taking pictures without clothes, you might make money out of it BUT investors won’t get a dime from it! Which is bad for the economy, so you shouldn’t do it.
Also, think of the children, blah blah…
Actually no - sex work is literally like any other work, with pimps extracting the surplus value from your labor instead of proper capitalists. The pimp can be a pornographic website hosting your videos, so investors can literally get money for it.
The one’s demonizing it often do so out of opportunism, to appeal to the traditionalist voters, not because it doesn’t produce profit or something.
But on the modern web, there are too many options for how to distribute your content. Thereby empowering each sex worker.
Yes, and what do you think those distribution sites do in exchange of distributing your content? Perhaps extracting surplus value from the profit they generate for housing sex worker’s videos? It’s literally the thing I’m talking about - the website is acting as a pimp in this case.
If you mean self-hosting or starting a small business selling your “sex work” on sites that you own, then that would bypass this exact point. However, that’s pretty much impossible given two things:
- How the fuck are you going to get discovered by people not aware of who you are
- Who the hell would visit a separate site entirely just for one porn star when a gazillion centralized alternatives that already contain thousands of videos exist
It’s a non-solution, and there is absolutely a reason why the biggest porn stars out there just use onlyfans or phub or whatever to host their content, even if it means getting exploited as a result.
And they’re slowly chipping away at access to those means where people can freely and independently operate.
Except you’re basically guaranteed to have your content pirated, and most low level sex workers won’t have the client base to turn a profit. The vast majority of people on OF and similar make very little money.
Keep in mind too that taxes can be fucked up for independent contractors, that many payment vendors can fuck you over (very common for PayPal to freeze funds), and also again, the low barrier to access means you are competing with a ton of other people. Unless you are very skilled at marketing or can fill a specific niche, it’s not going to make you enough to pay rent.
Full service can make you a lot more and has less of the immediate competition aspect, but at least in places where it is illegal, you are going to be raped at some point. You can’t exactly call the police if they don’t pay you or if they do something worse. There will be a heavy pressure to not use condoms, and stealthing is unfortunately extremely common.
Sex work is not “easy money.” Maybe it’s empowering to some, but for many it’s extremely traumatizing and dehumanizing.
You cant call the police - exactly the problem
It certainly doesn’t stop the police from calling you though…
One thing constantly left out of the “sex work is work” conversation is that sex workers have PTSD rates that rival combat veterans. It’s not the glamorous, fun, easy money that people want to fantasize it is.
What do you mean? Im sure OnlyFans investors aren’t complaining.
Sex is the reward of a capitalistic patriarchy. You bust your ass to get all the shinies, to then get the sexy.
Selling sex is a shortcut, and those aren’t allowed for the proletariat.
The picture thing is only “selling your body” if you are a woman, otherwise it’s “exercising your freedom” /s
Plot twist: it’s the same, it’s just that the rich elites have normalized their kinks, while villainizing sex workers for doing honest work.
They prefer all sex workers to be disempowered.
Just religious orthodoxy’s hold over society baked into non-religious norms. Plus, people love to feel superior by judging others.
It’s bonded servitude with extra steps.
Feudal serfs were more valued than we are, but then they had a (dire) labor shortage. Now the system is maintained to assure there’s a surplus.
At least until AI and robots take our jobs.
Speakibg of which, autonomous freight trucks are being tested in Texas. Talk about great replacement
Well. It’s not. Your not selling anything. You’re being used, and abused and paid enough to barely keep you alive. You know. Slaves.
Selling your body is more profitable. And under your control. Can’t have that , can we?
damn, i’m feeling seen and it wasn’t noods…
Is change of profession something that’s feasible for you?
It happened in '93, back’s been shit since tho :)
We should change to “selling orgasms and related services” instead, is truer and sounds better.
Orgasmonger
new policy. no clothes at work
I think the shaming of sex workers is more of a sexual strategy than one based in wealth. I know Lemmy is (luckily) very anti-capitalist, but I think in this case poor people do the same shaming as rich people.
As a labourer, I’m not sure I get the point of this post. Is the point that my job is bad? I lift things with a forklift, not my back. I also get paid more than the national average thanks to my union. Sex work can be normalized without putting down labourers.
No, the point is that in both cases you are selling your body, but only one is looked down as something filthy and bad. Either both are bad or none is.
Unfortunately, I fear that physical labor does not have a very good reputation in most societies either - at least not if you take remuneration as an indicator, because despite the outstanding value of the work for society, it is often significantly lower than the remuneration for office work, for example.
Fundamentally, it seems to me that one of the most serious issues of our time is that value creation is not adequately remunerated. Instead, the highest salaries are paid to those who manage or regulate the work of others - whether they are pimps, porn producers, lawyers, or CEOs of a corporation: strangely enough, the highest salaries are almost always paid to those who do not create any value themselves, but merely organize the actual creation of value in some way.
This has been the case for quite some time, of course, but the imbalance is becoming increasingly severe - especially when you consider issues such as LLMs (where corporations benefit massively from the work of others without paying them anything at all).
The point is we are all whores, just wearing different makeup. Line must go up.
Oh, my line goes up.
Vertically.
From the center of my hand.
In the direction of my employers.
Yeah you didnt get the point of the post.
Forklift licenses are great though.
I’m keeping this to a side of my head and I will start a random debate at a later date
Taking pictures of yourself without clothes on is piracy.
Piracy of what?
corporations own your body, it’s not your right to sell it for your own profit
Is this trying to bait people to take pictures of themselves?
I disagree.
Your opinions are also owned by corporations. It is not your right to disagree.
Your speech pattern has been detected to be the property of Google, LLC. Sending a cease and desist letter…
