Everyone I personally know who has tried Carnivore has done so from a data driven approach. Recording metrics, going in with a skeptical empiricism. They tend to be the “prove it” kind of people. The kind of people who actually read the literature (not just the abstracts).
The bulk of philosophically driven advice is against Carnivore - which acts as a giant filter for those who actually do it. Science minded people very much have the EXPERIMENTAL thought process - I’m seeing multiple theories, what is my falsifiable hypothesis - how do I measure it?
I’m genuinely impressed at how eager people are to share their data, there is a glee of discovery, even if the results are not perfect. This is real biohackers ethics, the joy of improving each others lives.
It also attracts lots of haters too! But If this tiny community of 10 people gets to live rent free in people’s heads enough that they break out their army of sockpuppets, then we are doing something right.
What drives me to post is the possibility that I might be able to get someone else to just stop eating ultraprocessed food. If all I have to deal with is downvotes, it’s worth it.
I think we’ve all had similar experiences, starting with the skepticism and the incredulity stemming from learning that what we know about nutrition was based on entirely unscientific fundamentals. That really is the core of this community, for me.
The downvotes are only from a tiny fraction of people! Lots of sock puppets.
There was a person who got banned from our old community about 8 times, they had soooo many alts. Once lemm.ee closed down and they consolidated their communities on piefed their alts got unmasked, heh.