i actually don’t support these laws because they historically always just get used against the left and never against the right. fascism isn’t defeated by the government banning it, it’s defeated on the street. Also from a long time back, one of the proposed amendments to this bill was the following text (i dont know if it was in the final bill)
all other extremist groups which seek to promote fascism, communism, anarchism, bigotry and violence in our community
we also know that in places like germany where nazi symbols are banned they just invent new more obscure ones anyway
Doesn’t look too bad actually, specifically calling out a crossed out swastika as being allowed (afaik in Germany this example was used to disperse antifascist rallies)
Either way though, the solution can only come from the working class.
I agree. The argument that Nazi’s should be allowed to out themselves is also not entirely wrong, at least in societies where they have little to no power. For example, there was a minor political scandal in this Australian state not long ago, when politicians attended some kind of terf rally that Nazi’s also showed up to and saluted at. It’s likely the media would have ignored the rally (and the larger counter-protest) if not for the fact that politicians were photographed hanging out with Nazi’s. The whole thing turned into a massive self-own precisely because the Nazi’s showed up and saluted.m, which in turn brought a lot of media heat on the rally and it’s attendees
i actually don’t support these laws because they historically always just get used against the left and never against the right. fascism isn’t defeated by the government banning it, it’s defeated on the street. Also from a long time back, one of the proposed amendments to this bill was the following text (i dont know if it was in the final bill)
we also know that in places like germany where nazi symbols are banned they just invent new more obscure ones anyway
they don’t need a legal mandate to oppress the left. blow up every nazi statue with public money.
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Doesn’t look too bad actually, specifically calling out a crossed out swastika as being allowed (afaik in Germany this example was used to disperse antifascist rallies)
Either way though, the solution can only come from the working class.
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I agree. The argument that Nazi’s should be allowed to out themselves is also not entirely wrong, at least in societies where they have little to no power. For example, there was a minor political scandal in this Australian state not long ago, when politicians attended some kind of terf rally that Nazi’s also showed up to and saluted at. It’s likely the media would have ignored the rally (and the larger counter-protest) if not for the fact that politicians were photographed hanging out with Nazi’s. The whole thing turned into a massive self-own precisely because the Nazi’s showed up and saluted.m, which in turn brought a lot of media heat on the rally and it’s attendees
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